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Post by mrx on May 30, 2012 23:27:58 GMT -5
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Post by therealnic on May 31, 2012 22:08:41 GMT -5
Hola Mr. X. Glad to have the official stalker with us!
Yeah, I was reading about Pegg's comments. What's interesting is that he says the main villain played by dude isn't Khan. Technically, technically, that doesn't preclude the possibility that Khan is in the movie.
But as long as he's not the main villain, I'm cool. Or, as cool as I can be with stories set in an alternate timeline that may or may not have effectively ended the main line in which the characters I have the most affinity for inhabit.
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Post by superbats25 on Jun 2, 2012 1:41:40 GMT -5
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Post by mrx on Jun 2, 2012 13:56:01 GMT -5
I assumed that was the idea the movie was trying to get across, particularly in that conversation on the bridge of the Enterprise. They created a new timeline while keeping the old one intact. While we've certainly had plenty of Trek stories where time travel changed the main timeline (City on the Edge of Forever, Past Tense, ST: First Contact) it hasn't been a stranger to time travel creating alternate timelines, either (for example, Parallels).
I think Star Trek: Online runs with that idea, doesn't it? Doesn't it take place in the decades following Romulus' destruction?
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Post by therealnic on Jun 2, 2012 22:45:11 GMT -5
My whole deal with Orci and Kurtzman's reasoning (that Spock and Nero travelling to the past didn't erase the main timeline but merely created a new one) is that if you're going to go that route you need to be consistent. Any and all travelling back in time should create a new timeline (the events of which would thus have no bearing on the timeline our characters travelled back from), not just the one instance that would, without this way out, erase the vast majority of Trek.
And yes, STO stays with the main timeline. Both Spock and Nero are presumed dead. And Vulcan hasn't been blown up real good. (I visted there a few weeks ago.) Their actions in the past changed nothing.
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Post by therealjosh on Jun 11, 2012 14:41:31 GMT -5
My whole deal with Orci and Kurtzman's reasoning (that Spock and Nero travelling to the past didn't erase the main timeline but merely created a new one) is that if you're going to go that route you need to be consistent. Any and all travelling back in time should create a new timeline (the events of which would thus have no bearing on the timeline our characters travelled back from), not just the one instance that would, without this way out, erase the vast majority of Trek. And yes, STO stays with the main timeline. Both Spock and Nero are presumed dead. And Vulcan hasn't been blown up real good. (I visted there a few weeks ago.) Their actions in the past changed nothing. Also, we have to take into account that Star Trek lore has instituted "time-cops" to right what has gone wrong in various timelines. The writers of this newest set of films shouldn't forget that and they definitely shouldn't ignore it. Having the writers play off that idea could make the 3rd Trek movie ridiculously awesome! Sent from my DROID Pro using ProBoards
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